I didn't really see Ruby as ever being really independent or having her own motivations-- then again, as I said, I hate her and never could stand her; I always thought she was a worthless character who never had a place in the show. The only reason she came in was to appease the fangirls, and frankly her entire story arc reads like a fanfiction.net story (though not as much as Anna's - don't get me started on Anna, I can't stand her, I can't even watch those episodes EVER again).
You have a point about Bela, too. I hated her, but I have to admit, she was a lot more of an independent character than Ruby was, though towards the end she sort of started leaning towards everything hinging on the boys.
I'm pretty sure the only "character development" the boys are getting these days consists of "stagnate Dean" and "turn Sam into a complete and utter dick". I'm really, really hating this season. I'm hating what they're doing to the boys and it pisses me off. You're right about the secondary characters, too. It's pissy what they're doing for the sake of a forced and fake storyline that isn't working (the "Sam v. Dean, heaven v. hell" shit). :\
You're right, that's probably true. I feel like such a minority in SPN fandom, because Jo is one of my favorite characters - I loved her, she had so much potential and she was so awesome! I hate that he kicked her off to cater to those that screamed loudest just because she dared to have a crush on Dean (like they wouldn't in her position, right?). And then that same catering led to Ruby basically raping Sam while he was drunk in s4! What the fuck?! Don't see where that's getting Kripke except despised by me lately.
Good, cos apparently this subject draws out the long-winded pseudo-academic in me xD
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Date: 2009-02-09 05:55 am (UTC)You have a point about Bela, too. I hated her, but I have to admit, she was a lot more of an independent character than Ruby was, though towards the end she sort of started leaning towards everything hinging on the boys.
I'm pretty sure the only "character development" the boys are getting these days consists of "stagnate Dean" and "turn Sam into a complete and utter dick". I'm really, really hating this season. I'm hating what they're doing to the boys and it pisses me off. You're right about the secondary characters, too. It's pissy what they're doing for the sake of a forced and fake storyline that isn't working (the "Sam v. Dean, heaven v. hell" shit). :\
You're right, that's probably true. I feel like such a minority in SPN fandom, because Jo is one of my favorite characters - I loved her, she had so much potential and she was so awesome! I hate that he kicked her off to cater to those that screamed loudest just because she dared to have a crush on Dean (like they wouldn't in her position, right?). And then that same catering led to Ruby basically raping Sam while he was drunk in s4! What the fuck?! Don't see where that's getting Kripke except despised by me lately.
Good, cos apparently this subject draws out the long-winded pseudo-academic in me xD