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Just told my geeky friend Chase about David Hayter's rape joke, after filling him in on the fact that this was the guy who wrote an earlier draft of the Watchman script—it wasn't the script they used, they credited him for legal reasons—and was the voice of Solid Snake. I therefore got to enjoy seeing Chase do a Stan Marsh nose pinch and his entire face sort of twitched. Otherwise, though, not all that funny.

I didn't really go into the movie after I'd seen it the first time, SO I WILL DO SO NOW. I think I've figured out the part that the movie starts to become much less awesome than the source material, and that's at the Comedian's funeral. Before that, we have the Comedian going out the window, the fantastic title sequence that I think everybody loves, Rorschach's first scenes, all sorts of awesome, well done stuff.

And then there's the funeral, and everyone has to have their Eddie Blake flashbacks, which are presented in exactly the same order as they were in the comic and really, exactly the same in their entirety, and they're all interesting but none of them move the story forward whatsoever, and the movie looses all momentum, something it doesn't pick up again until Rorschach goes to prison. And it never really hits that high point again. The middle is all muddled and sort of boring and really weak.

The end is ... I don't mind that they changed the part with the alien at all. And the ending is supposed to be anti-climactic and sort of unsatisfactory, I think. Rorschach's death is fabulous and just as upsetting upon second viewing as it was on the first, but in the comic? He died alone in the snow and nobody cared. Dan and Laurie were too busy having sex inside to even notice he'd left and no one even asked what happened to him. It was horrible and it's way more satisfying to see what happens in the movie, with Dan screaming and run inside to beat Adrian in retaliation, but I can't help but think that the first way, the way that bothers you to see, is the way it's supposed to be.

The movie recreates the world in a way that's awesome to watch, I think the actors all did a great job, but it almost doesn't even seem to bother with the contrasting ideas of morality and justice that I thought the comic was all about.

Dan and Laurie's characters are made much more sympathetic but a lot less complex. I always found both of them to be sort of self-centered and shallow—like, they were having sex while Manhattan is killing Rorschach outside—but that made them a lot more flawed and human.

And really, if the beginning had been weak and the ending totally perfect and awesome, I think the movie would hold up a lot better. As it is, it suffers from the fact that it peaks in quality five minutes into it and then it's all downhill from there. It makes the whole thing seem much more like a ... letdown.

I still liked it a lot, of course.

And on a slightly related note, I'm getting sort of sick of hearing, "Well, he was no Heath Ledger." Seriously, guys, Leder did a great job and totally deserved the Oscar, but have some people never seen another Academy Award winning performance? There's actually a lot of them, you know. There's a few new ones every year, in fact.

Date: 2009-03-16 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunsetsred.livejournal.com
Well, this. Jon's just as bad as the Comedian for not interfering with shit. Just standing by and letting it all happen, as if he cant change a thing. And everybody at the end just... going on to live the perfect life? I think that's one of the things that makes Rorschach the most "noble" to people, because he wasnt willing to live a lie or just stand around and do nothing in the face of it all.

NEVERMIND ALL THE PSYCHOPATHIC SHIT. But it says something that, even though he's the most fucked up, he's got his head on the most straight. ...Er. You probably get what I mean.

Date: 2009-03-16 07:05 am (UTC)
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I get what you mean, but I think that the comic itself refutes that. Because in the end, I think Watchmen was about the newspaper guy and the kid reading the book and the shrink who quits his job when he has to deal with Rorschach. Because it's a treatise on the condition of humanity, and those are the normal people who get presented to us. Not the crazed costumed heroes.

And their messages is basically that humanity CAN change. That all of the costumed heroes saying that humanity is a sewer that needs to be tricked into even salvation are wrong.

Date: 2009-03-16 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunsetsred.livejournal.com
I love the kick to the face that, as the community is actually doing what nobody thought they would and taking a step to help their fellow man by getting involved in the domestic abuse taking place out on the streets -- that moment is when Veidt's horrendous psychic vajanus monster takes out half the city.

Date: 2009-03-16 07:13 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] unicorn
Haha, QUITE INTENTIONAL, I am sure. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU THINK YOU KNOW BEST FOR THE WORLD, KIDS. Which all of the costumed heroes are so guilty of.

It's like Hollis said about what kind of person would dress up to fight crime anyway, you know?

Date: 2009-03-16 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunsetsred.livejournal.com
The kind who can only get it up in costume!

I was a little sad the movie lost so much of the sexual depravity of the book. I mean, the blatant stuff they got! But it seemed like that whole atmosphere was kind of missing. Or maybe it was just the monster at the end IDK.

BED NOW. REALLY. IT'S ALMOST 2:30.

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