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Added some folks from the Star Trek 2009 Friending Meme. Hello!

In even less exciting news, I'm back at university to take my final two ... finals. Some of my grades are already coming back; this semester came out okay, and probably better than could've been expected, considering I spent almost the entire goddamn time with strep throat—I ended up missing like two weeks of classes, if you add up all the times I had to miss because I was too sick. College is still soul crushingly difficult for me, but I'm actually sort of confident that I can do this just three more times. That's it! Three more times.

It's like a chant. It has replaced my old motto, which was, "I'm the best, I'm good at everything, and nobody hates me."

Actually, I think I'll keep the old motto, too.


McCoy got between Jim and a flying fist only once. And when he woke up about five minutes later—lying on the floor, his shirt soaked in cheap liquor, his young friend nowhere in sight—he only had one thing to say: "I'm never doing that again."


Dude, what was Nero up to for twenty-five years? Besides, y'know, the obvious: plotting.


Chekov, where the fuck did you come from? You being "sewenteen" and all.


James T. Kirk was the worst teenager of all time. Obviously. But Starfleet's apparently cool with letting former felons captain starships, assuming his stepfather pressed charges for stealing that car and driving off a cliff, so I guess this isn't going to affect his future career any. ... Do they even have giant cliffs like that in Iowa? I thought the midwest was mostly flat and stuff.


Doesn't McCoy have a kid with his ex-wife?


How depressing is the rest of Spock Prime's life going to be? Really really depressing. And he's got no one, really, because even if his best friends in the world are alive and kicking it somewhere in the galaxy once again, they aren't his versions. And he can't have much to do with them anyway. That's gotta sting!


Speaking of which, I somehow doubt that young!McCoy would really take any kind of tone with Spock Prime, considering Spock's matured beyond most of the traits that pissed McCoy off to begin with, plus he's so old and dignified and stuff. But considering that the bickering was like the foundation of their friendship, I bet old Spock would miss that.


Okay, Kirk's earned a lot of trust from his crew, but he hasn't nearly gotten the absolute faith he's commanding by the time the television series rolls around. Therefore, the ships not going to run quite as smoothly as we all remember. Or maybe not smoothly at all.

Date: 2009-05-12 11:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dafnap.livejournal.com
"It would be unreasonable to expect you to perform beyond your physical capabilities" or something asinine he thinks is forgiveness and Chehov being all, "VUT NO."

Oh god, I can so picture that and I don't know whether to feel even MORE bad at the guy or giggle because I am 12.

His face fell so. hard. so. fast. You know he had five minutes there, thinking he was invincible, and then Spock beats the shit out of Kirk on the bridge in front of everyone he has ever worked with or taught. And Chekov is still going to be young enough to think it's all his fault. And gah. GAH.

And because I barely need an excuse to reread The Kobayashi Maru Chekov getting all broken hearted when he realizes that Kirk cheated to win:

"I don't think I understand . . ." Chekov had joined them from the front hatch partway through Kirk's narration. He sat now with his back against the airlock doors, his arms folded on his drawn-up knees; lamplight brushed blue highlights into the lieutenant's brown hair, while distance hid his dark-eyed face in shadow. "Are you saying that you cheated?"

...is pretty much the best thing ever.

Date: 2009-05-12 11:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
That's it. I'm in love with Chekov too, now. DAMMIT.

(Also your brain. Both yours and [livejournal.com profile] rockload's.)

Date: 2009-05-13 12:03 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rocknload.livejournal.com
Auuuuuugh that's so terrible but likely, man, especially since I'm sure the kid hero worships both Kirk and Spock by the end of the movie so he he probably wouldn't even be able to i>consider the fact that, gee, maybe the two of them were being dicks -- which they were -- so it must have been because of him! He could've prevented it all! Bones, get that kid to a shrink, stat.

... Which leads me to thinking the fact that they all might benefit from a visit to a shrink, since they're all freaking kids except maybe McCoy and they all tried to stop Nero from destroying the whole planet and they were VULCAN'S ONLY CHANCE and they still failed. DOES STARFLEET PROVIDE PSYCHOLOGICAL COUNSELING SERVICES I wonder.

When I was a kid I always thought that Kirk was a dick for cheating on the Kobayashi Maru. Because he so was. This movie doesn't even leave that ambiguous.

Date: 2009-05-13 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quigonejinn.livejournal.com
... Which leads me to thinking the fact that they all might benefit from a visit to a shrink

I would pay money to read a fic consisting of transcripts of those sessions. Yes, I would.

Date: 2009-05-13 12:23 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rocknload.livejournal.com
Oh, man, now I really sort of want to write it -- DAMN YOU, CHINESE FINAL EXAM. Maybe later tonight...

Date: 2009-05-13 12:13 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dafnap.livejournal.com
Oh man, where's Troi when you need her, huh?

When I was a kid I always thought that Kirk was a dick for cheating on the Kobayashi Maru. Because he so was. This movie doesn't even leave that ambiguous.

Dude, dude, dude, all I want these days is to explore the differences between the two Kirks and the difference scenarios they envisioned for themselves to win, because it is seriously, seriously so warped for a guy who lost his dad in the destruction of an entire ship, to be so goddamn blase about blowing three Klingon Birds of Prey to kingdom come, while Kirk Prime took every pain imaginable to ensure that little life was lost, even in a simulation. Like. Still a dick move! But man, just how. Nu!Kirk is so much more...he's all sorts of unarticulated damage, huh?

Date: 2009-05-13 12:21 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rocknload.livejournal.com
I think old Kirk learned his lesson when Spock died in Wrath of Khan and basically rubbed Kirk's THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A NO-WIN SCENARIO words in his face -- though I don't think he meant to do that, it must've made Spock's death hit Kirk even harder. In this world, though, he already has seen proof that things aren't always going to work out. Kirk Prime was more experienced and he had more self-confidence to back up all his bravado, but he also seemed lot more psychologically healthy than this kid.

BUT YEAH there are differences between the Kirk's. [livejournal.com profile] regann wrote up about the movie and pointed out the fact that nu!Kirk didn't witness the massacre on Tarsus IV -- I think an experience like that in Kirk Prime's timeline could make him far less eager to see anyone die needlessly.

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