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[rocknload]

Added some folks from the Star Trek 2009 Friending Meme. Hello!

In even less exciting news, I'm back at university to take my final two ... finals. Some of my grades are already coming back; this semester came out okay, and probably better than could've been expected, considering I spent almost the entire goddamn time with strep throat—I ended up missing like two weeks of classes, if you add up all the times I had to miss because I was too sick. College is still soul crushingly difficult for me, but I'm actually sort of confident that I can do this just three more times. That's it! Three more times.

It's like a chant. It has replaced my old motto, which was, "I'm the best, I'm good at everything, and nobody hates me."

Actually, I think I'll keep the old motto, too.


McCoy got between Jim and a flying fist only once. And when he woke up about five minutes later—lying on the floor, his shirt soaked in cheap liquor, his young friend nowhere in sight—he only had one thing to say: "I'm never doing that again."


Dude, what was Nero up to for twenty-five years? Besides, y'know, the obvious: plotting.


Chekov, where the fuck did you come from? You being "sewenteen" and all.


James T. Kirk was the worst teenager of all time. Obviously. But Starfleet's apparently cool with letting former felons captain starships, assuming his stepfather pressed charges for stealing that car and driving off a cliff, so I guess this isn't going to affect his future career any. ... Do they even have giant cliffs like that in Iowa? I thought the midwest was mostly flat and stuff.


Doesn't McCoy have a kid with his ex-wife?


How depressing is the rest of Spock Prime's life going to be? Really really depressing. And he's got no one, really, because even if his best friends in the world are alive and kicking it somewhere in the galaxy once again, they aren't his versions. And he can't have much to do with them anyway. That's gotta sting!


Speaking of which, I somehow doubt that young!McCoy would really take any kind of tone with Spock Prime, considering Spock's matured beyond most of the traits that pissed McCoy off to begin with, plus he's so old and dignified and stuff. But considering that the bickering was like the foundation of their friendship, I bet old Spock would miss that.


Okay, Kirk's earned a lot of trust from his crew, but he hasn't nearly gotten the absolute faith he's commanding by the time the television series rolls around. Therefore, the ships not going to run quite as smoothly as we all remember. Or maybe not smoothly at all.

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[maxiboom.livejournal.com]

I don't think there was any plotting at all, since his plan was basically "Blow things up, lure out Spock... END OF PLAN". It doesn't take twenty-five years to come up with that.

I like to assume the mining ship developed it's own little culture, and people tried to build lives in there, and maybe even have kids assuming it was mixed gender, and in their own way limped along until oh hell it's twenty-five years later GUESS THE PLAN IS BACK ON and then they all get eaten by another black hole.

[rocknload.livejournal.com]

Well, there's no reason to assume that Nero was angry enough to want to kill six billion people when he first got out of the time warp! So thinking of destroying Vulcan wasn't necessarily a great plot but it might've taken him quite some time to come to that as the logical thing to do next.

Romulan women are soldiers and stuff, so it's probably safe to say they're miners, too. So there probably were kids there. KIRK YOU KILLED ROMULAN CHILDREN >/

[maxiboom.livejournal.com]

I dunno, I bet he didn't even come up with the "Destroy Vulcan" plan before he caught old Spock and found all the red matter (REEEEED MAAAAAATTER) sitting around. Nothing Nero and company did really smacked of "given any particular thought", so having a genocide thrown together at the last minute is an entirely reasonable assumption to make.

But it would also mean they had even less to think about for twenty-five years. Yeah, there were totally FUTURE ROMULAN BABIES all over that ship. Falling off rail-less walkways and whatnot.

[rocknload.livejournal.com]

When Spock came out of the black hole Nero was all, "I WANT HIM TO WATCH." So either he had something kinky in mind or he had the destroy Vulcan plan in mind already! But then he would've had to have known about the red matter beforehand, and for that to make sense -- somehow I doubt the writers cared this much about it, but let's pretend that they did -- he must've been already at least sort of aware beforehand of what Spock's rescue plan for Romulus was.

PLAYING HIDE AND SEEK, EVEN

[maxiboom.livejournal.com]

True enough! I dunno, it's also kind of weird that they apparently never tried to contact Romulus, even though they were perfectly okay with blowing up entire planets, which isn't a good way to go unnoticed. Much less how Nero stayed in command all this time, since there's indications from the way his crew isn't all that gung-ho about jumping to his orders that they're probably not all as on board with this as he is.

Probably because they really wanted to get back down to level 452 for the parent-teacher meeting going on that night. There were free Romulan brownies! THE KIDS HAD MADE MACARONI ART.

[sunsetsred.livejournal.com]

Romulan charades.

Also, Chekov probably took after you and me and graduated early.

[rocknload.livejournal.com]

Maybe they played hide and seek. That ship would be totally awesome for hide and seek.

Still, even if he was all brilliant and stuff you'd think they'd hold off on actually putting him in a military position with all sort of responsibilities until he was like, eighteen? Twenty-one?

[sunsetsred.livejournal.com]

DUDE. This.

Makes you wonder who he blew.

[rocknload.livejournal.com]

LITTLE ROMULAN CHILDREN. PLAYING HIDE AND SEEK ON THE MINING SHIP, THE ONLY HOME THEY'VE EVER KNOWN. UNTIL ONE DAY...

Fandom's already coming back with Sulu as an answer to that question. Though I don't think blowing Sulu's going to get you very high up the ranks of Starfleet, really. He doesn't even get his own ship until like, what, the sixth movie?

[jeanne-dark.livejournal.com]

*waves back* Hullo!

Doesn't McCoy have a kid with his ex-wife?

Joanna, yes. I rather hope the reboot hasn't erased her. Like it apparently has with Sam.

How depressing is the rest of Spock Prime's life going to be?

I...really try not to think of this. Really, really try. Because otherwise, I might just want to hug Spock Prime and never, ever let go.

[rocknload.livejournal.com]

Hi!

Yeah, Spock's life is terrible. He seems cool with it, though? Even with the weight of two destroyed planets on his conscience. Um, maybe he just ... figures that he's going to die soon anyway, no reason to feel too guilty, and all?

[jeanne-dark.livejournal.com]

But he's only, what? In his 150s? 160s at most? Vulcans have a lifespan into their 200s, so he has some decades left if that side of his heritage runs true in that area. Maybe somewhere between Delta Vega and the Academy, he came to terms with what had happened? In a handwavy, "it would be illogical to dwell on this" sort of way? In all honesty, though, I've been feeling terrible for Spock since Kirk died in Generations, so this on top of that is making me sadface way too much.

[rocknload.livejournal.com]

Well, he gets to see Kirk again! Briefly! All in his twenties and not recognizing him at all! Right before young!Kirk goes off and pilots his own Enterprise and probably never sees old!Spock again. I'm sure that wasn't salt in the wound at all.

[dafnap.livejournal.com]

Do they even have giant cliffs like that in Iowa? I thought the midwest was mostly flat and stuff.

I pretend it's part of the destruction left behind by the Xindi superweapon from Enterprise.

...even if Iowa is sorta hella far away from Florida. Details, shmetails.

Chekov, where the fuck did you come from? You being "sewenteen" and all.

I feel so stupid bad for the kid, post, you know, failing to rescue Spock's mom and all. That's a wicked goddamn slap back down to earth after rescuing Kirk and Sulu so spectacularly.

[rocknload.livejournal.com]

heh, that works! IOWA IS CLOSE ENOUGH, I say.

Oh, man, I totally forgot about that, and I made a note of it when I saw the movie last time, too. He just looked so crushed and he's a kid even compared to the rest of the cast who are basically kids, too. Rationally someone might tell him that there's nothing he could've done but he wouldn't necessarily buy that...

... Actually, now I'm picturing him trying to apologize to Spock and Spock going, "It would be unreasonable to expect you to perform beyond your physical capabilities" or something asinine he thinks is forgiveness and Chehov being all, "VUT NO." Poor, poor Chehov.

[dafnap.livejournal.com]

"It would be unreasonable to expect you to perform beyond your physical capabilities" or something asinine he thinks is forgiveness and Chehov being all, "VUT NO."

Oh god, I can so picture that and I don't know whether to feel even MORE bad at the guy or giggle because I am 12.

His face fell so. hard. so. fast. You know he had five minutes there, thinking he was invincible, and then Spock beats the shit out of Kirk on the bridge in front of everyone he has ever worked with or taught. And Chekov is still going to be young enough to think it's all his fault. And gah. GAH.

And because I barely need an excuse to reread The Kobayashi Maru Chekov getting all broken hearted when he realizes that Kirk cheated to win:

"I don't think I understand . . ." Chekov had joined them from the front hatch partway through Kirk's narration. He sat now with his back against the airlock doors, his arms folded on his drawn-up knees; lamplight brushed blue highlights into the lieutenant's brown hair, while distance hid his dark-eyed face in shadow. "Are you saying that you cheated?"

...is pretty much the best thing ever.

[quigonejinn.livejournal.com]

That's it. I'm in love with Chekov too, now. DAMMIT.

(Also your brain. Both yours and rockload's.)

[rocknload.livejournal.com]

Auuuuuugh that's so terrible but likely, man, especially since I'm sure the kid hero worships both Kirk and Spock by the end of the movie so he he probably wouldn't even be able to i>consider the fact that, gee, maybe the two of them were being dicks -- which they were -- so it must have been because of him! He could've prevented it all! Bones, get that kid to a shrink, stat.

... Which leads me to thinking the fact that they all might benefit from a visit to a shrink, since they're all freaking kids except maybe McCoy and they all tried to stop Nero from destroying the whole planet and they were VULCAN'S ONLY CHANCE and they still failed. DOES STARFLEET PROVIDE PSYCHOLOGICAL COUNSELING SERVICES I wonder.

When I was a kid I always thought that Kirk was a dick for cheating on the Kobayashi Maru. Because he so was. This movie doesn't even leave that ambiguous.

[quigonejinn.livejournal.com]

I love you, and I love your brain, and I love the new Star Trek, and oh God.

[rocknload.livejournal.com]

This fandom is going to be so awesome, there's so much to work with, I am so excited.

[quigonejinn.livejournal.com]

WEE BABY GENIUS CHEKOV.

I want to know so much about him. Why does he speak Standard with an accent? Does he have that accent in other languages? Did Spock teach him? Who did Chekov blow in order to get onto the bridge?

Also: ROMULAN CHILDREN PLAYING HIDE AND SEEK. Do you think Spock is anywhere close to the point where he can feel bad about that? And Jesus, I'm wondering about Romulan - Vulcan relations after this.

[rocknload.livejournal.com]

MORE PRESSINGLY: DOES HE STILL ATTRIBUTE EVERY INWENTION ON EARTH TO A LITTLE OLD LADY IN LENINGRAD? But yeah, making him a kid was necessary for believability, since everyone knows he was the kid of the crew, but now that they've done it we must PONDER THE IMPLICATIONS/

Well, presumably old Spock or someone else is going to warn the Romulans that their planet has a ticking clock, MAYBE THEY COULD WORK TOGETHER? VULCANS AND ROMULANS? HELP EACH OTHER OUT? I doubt that'd go smoothly like at all but I can't imagine that they wouldn't try.

[stoplookingup.livejournal.com]

Hello!

I think genius-boy Chekov was an in-joke nod to (god help us) Wesley Crusher.

I also think Spock Prime will be just fine, because he's pretty much achieved enlightenment and is at one with the universe (whichever one he happens to be in).

And as to explaining Kirk's promotion to captain despite youth, inexperience, and a criminal record...LOOK! There's a shiny object over there! *waving hands madly in an effort to distract*

[rocknload.livejournal.com]

HE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB! HE SAVED THE PLANET! SURELY STARFLEET IS HANDING OUT STARSHIPS FOR THIS.

[nimnod.livejournal.com]

How do we know the voice was Kirk's stepfather? I may have missed something. I've seen some references to him as the mother's boyfriend too, but I'm not sure where people are getting it from.